tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4026702948722542359.post543699227002388467..comments2023-04-17T08:45:35.327+01:00Comments on The Three Towns Blog: The Black Lion, ConwyUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4026702948722542359.post-7960914191489888842012-11-01T20:19:45.414+00:002012-11-01T20:19:45.414+00:00I would love to see this building restored to it&#...I would love to see this building restored to it's former glory, be it residential or commercial. Good luck to the owner in her endeavours. I agree with Mark:Leicester the Jackdaws are iconic and should stay.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4026702948722542359.post-6907062368052514162012-08-30T12:11:21.846+01:002012-08-30T12:11:21.846+01:00WOW its took me AGES to find out info on this prop...WOW its took me AGES to find out info on this property<br /><br />I remember it for sale a few years back and i was very very tempted. After reading about the problems im pleased i didn’t peruse it<br /><br />I remember looking inside the letter box at the time and felt the building had a sinister feeling to it (god knows why)<br /><br />if the property is renovated please don’t get rid of those crows - they are brilliant, just love looking at themMark :Leicesternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4026702948722542359.post-88802160278688077522012-08-13T09:34:04.982+01:002012-08-13T09:34:04.982+01:00To Angharad Jones -
I've always been very int...To Angharad Jones - <br />I've always been very interested in your building. I've some thoughts about it which I'd like to discuss with you. Please would you mind contacting me on<br />kolurspace@gmail.com<br /><br />Thank you.kolourspacehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15553424250482966266noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4026702948722542359.post-65862086099169781932012-08-13T09:30:46.320+01:002012-08-13T09:30:46.320+01:00To Angharad Jones -
I've always been really ...To Angharad Jones - <br /><br />I've always been really interested in your building and have some thoughts about it which I'd like to discuss with you. <br /><br />Please would you mind contacting me: kolurspace@gmail.com<br /><br />Many thankskolourspacehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15553424250482966266noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4026702948722542359.post-92098050657560003522012-05-28T15:38:36.984+01:002012-05-28T15:38:36.984+01:00Have you any comment on the plans of the carport/r...Have you any comment on the plans of the carport/roof garden I sent you?<br />Needless to say, Conwy Council missed yet another deadline (8th May 2012) and so I have sent all the documents (applications, plans, comments etc) to the Welsh Assembly Planning Inspectorate in the hope that something will now happen.Angharad E.M.Jones(Owener)noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4026702948722542359.post-3214788059929865722012-05-02T20:17:45.263+01:002012-05-02T20:17:45.263+01:00Yes, I have it, thank you. It all looks very inter...Yes, I have it, thank you. It all looks very interesting, I will have a proper look at it tomorrow.DDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13376731039541268993noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4026702948722542359.post-27269542504583389762012-05-02T13:51:14.055+01:002012-05-02T13:51:14.055+01:00So sorry - I included "bay" in the addre...So sorry - I included "bay" in the address - has it come through this time?Angharad Jones (owner)noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4026702948722542359.post-14657877153507231112012-05-02T09:36:21.260+01:002012-05-02T09:36:21.260+01:00I can assure you that it does. I've just teste...I can assure you that it does. I've just tested it by sending an email to it from another account and it worked fine.<br /><br />llandudnoandcolwynblog@gmx.comDDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13376731039541268993noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4026702948722542359.post-28716788501605040402012-05-02T09:27:37.425+01:002012-05-02T09:27:37.425+01:00No, that e-mail address does not workNo, that e-mail address does not workAngharad Jonesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4026702948722542359.post-10536178249266393862012-04-30T10:50:48.123+01:002012-04-30T10:50:48.123+01:00llandudnoandcolwynblog@gmx.comllandudnoandcolwynblog@gmx.comDDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13376731039541268993noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4026702948722542359.post-32899915541929974942012-04-30T10:39:52.860+01:002012-04-30T10:39:52.860+01:00I cannot find your e-mail address.I cannot find your e-mail address.Angharad Jones (owner)noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4026702948722542359.post-2243010969433985752012-04-20T22:36:14.535+01:002012-04-20T22:36:14.535+01:00Thank you for publishing my comments.
With regard...Thank you for publishing my comments.<br /><br />With regard to the CBA comments: they were taken on board and the kichen (subject of the original plan to remove half a wall) has been re-sited and there are now no plans to remove any internal walls. The point about the Archaeological Report being available once complete, was covered in my first reply.<br /><br />I investigated the possibility of commercial use when I first purchased the property. There is an alchohol prohibition clause in the deeds, so a restaurant or pub is out of the question. There are loads of cafes in Conwy already and a cafe would not produce the return necessary for this expensive renovation. When I asked a commercial estate agent for the prospects as a retail outlet, I was told that the windows were hopeless for selling and he would not be able to rent or sell the property for retail. The reversion to residential was the only viable option. All this information is in the Stage 1 planning application. I really have gone into all the options thoroughly.Angharad Jones (Owner)noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4026702948722542359.post-51589550806759568102012-04-20T13:05:43.003+01:002012-04-20T13:05:43.003+01:00Of course, your comments would be published - why ...Of course, your comments would be published - why not?<br /><br />And very welcome they are, too. Everyone in Conwy is very concerned about the Black Lion's current state. If you would like to email me any plans/photos etc, I would be more than happy to do a follow up post explaining your position/plans in more detail.<br /><br />In fairness to my own comments, though, other organisations have expressed concerns about the plans for the property, notably the Council for British Archaeology, who commented that:<br /><br />"Proposals to turn the building back into a single domestic dwelling have not been opposed by the CBA, but we objected to the removal of historic fabric by the proposed addition of three ensuite bathrooms and the removal of internal walls. The case also raised concerns over the public accessibility of the archaeological report, which the owner is presently not willing to make available, a position that the CBA considers to be deplorable."<br /><br />http://www.britarch.ac.uk/ba/ba116/update.shtml<br /><br />My personal view is that the Black Lion is unsuited to residential use - with 2 of what I shall diplomatically refer to as 'not the quietest pubs in Conwy' next door and the door/windows of the Black Lion being directly on the pavement, its asking for trouble. For that reason, I think a commercial usage would be more appropriate. Just my own opinion, you understand.DDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13376731039541268993noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4026702948722542359.post-42304386111331794012012-04-20T12:51:06.404+01:002012-04-20T12:51:06.404+01:00I feel it is always better to check both sides of ...I feel it is always better to check both sides of a situation before coming to a conclusion. I refer to your 19th February 2012 comment "Owner that has left it to languish ..." Apart from the poor English ("who" not "that"), the statement is also wrong. I have battled for 4 years to renovate this building, I was advised at the beginning to appoint a firm of conservation architects (which I did) and they would work with the Principal Conservation Officer to produce plans and obtain planning permission. After three years and over £23,000 architects fees, the plans were refused. Total failure! Even my attempt to obtain permission to carry out emergency repairs was met with the response "... the Principal Conservation Officer will not assist in resolving the remaining outstanding issues that have previously been identified and potentially could create further delay in determining your application". It is my firm belief that he is carrying out his threat. As any planning application is either passed or refused and is never partly passed, it is important that every point is correct. On such a complicated scheme, the chances of one thing not being acceptable is high. I have therefore broken down the proposals into Stages. Stage 1 is the yard, the well and the drainage. Two reasons for this: (1) a spade in the ground means having an archaeologist there to watch and report (the supports for the car port/roof garden, the well and the drains all require a spade in the ground so they all form part of Stage 1). The yard Archaeological Report will be added to the building Archaeological Report which I commissioned in May 2009 - the whole thing will then be deposited in the Royal Commission archives. (2) until I provide drains, I cannot instal guttering, as the discharge of large quantities of water into the ground in a few places could lead to subsidence. If you check the actual planning application for Stage 1 (DC/0/38740 and 38741) you will see that (contrary to your comments) no part of the building is to be demolished to build the carport/roof garden. That is a complete fabrication. As far as the three bathrooms are concerned( and these will be subject to a later Stage application - not Stage 1), there are seven upstairs rooms - the numbers are totally in proportion. For some reason Conwy Council does not put planning applications on-line, but I would respectfully suggest that if your interest is enough, that you go to Colwyn Bay and go through the paper copy. It is a fairly large file, even for a Stage of the work, but there are pictures of the proposed carport/roof garden and a lot of correspondence, comments and replies to comments as well as the plans. I hope for the sake of fairness that you do publish my reply to your comments dated 19.1.12Angharad Jones (Owner)noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4026702948722542359.post-74193418440357079282011-10-12T19:57:46.488+01:002011-10-12T19:57:46.488+01:00pato Although we appreciate everyone loving the ...pato Although we appreciate everyone loving the birds, has anyone noticed the state of repair of this magnificent building. I thinks that it is a crying shame that this building is going to ruin. Where are the National Trust, or Cadw. Why are the owner not being taken to task by their lack of maintenance of a property in the middle of the historic town of Conwy.patonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4026702948722542359.post-11574612773964623332010-05-11T22:32:11.792+01:002010-05-11T22:32:11.792+01:00i really love those jackdaws, and the hubby says t...i really love those jackdaws, and the hubby says that he peered inside a couple of years ago when there was soome work going on inside and that there are still rooms in there. <br /><br />Another place I want for my own now!Christinenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4026702948722542359.post-68761861196435084612010-04-17T16:33:47.835+01:002010-04-17T16:33:47.835+01:00Thanks for the info, Anon. If you happen to see it...Thanks for the info, Anon. If you happen to see it coming up for sale again, perhaps you could let me know?DDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13376731039541268993noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4026702948722542359.post-19684321459982134732010-04-17T16:28:27.947+01:002010-04-17T16:28:27.947+01:00I believe the birds are Jackdaws.
As in the Conwy ...I believe the birds are Jackdaws.<br />As in the Conwy Jackdaws which you can only join if you where born within the walls.<br />The Black Lion has changed hands a couple of times since the renovation was started.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4026702948722542359.post-64125750846029261732010-04-16T21:21:25.896+01:002010-04-16T21:21:25.896+01:00They're all fakes. Nice touch, eh?They're all fakes. Nice touch, eh?DDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13376731039541268993noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4026702948722542359.post-58615586014727563602010-04-16T21:18:05.269+01:002010-04-16T21:18:05.269+01:00Just noticed the three birds above each of the thr...Just noticed the three birds above each of the three gables. <br />The middle one obviously isn't real.<br /><br />How about the other two?Iolo Morganwghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06259840395202632129noreply@blogger.com